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Sam's avatar
Apr 16Edited

Yeah the UU is just white people. Almost every conservative evangelical group is more diverse. Something to think about. But I love the UUs and I think they’re great.

Maybe the conservative evangelicals deserve a little more credit from the left and media for being more diverse as far as racial obsessions are concerned.

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Pete McCutchen's avatar

Social Justice ideology is intrinsically antisemitic. Social Justice ideology posits that every social phenomenon can be described in terms of the oppressor/oppressed dichotomy. If any identity group is less successful than another, it must be due to oppression. Note they are not saying it can be due to oppression -- it must. Israel is more successful than the surrounding Arab states, and Jews are a successful group in America. So they must be oppressors, by Social Justice logic.

And yes, Jews are white by the Social Justice left’s definition. For that matter, they’re white by the definition of the Confederate States of America -- if you doubt that, google Judah P Benjamin. While antisemitism has existed in American history, there was no point where Jews were categorically considered to be not white. The whole “Jews aren’t white” thing is just a form of cope by Jews who desperately want to think the left is humane and they want to be good leftists, so they accept the Social Justice left’s categorical demonization of white people but try to carve themselves out of the hated group.

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Robin Edgar's avatar

The Unitarian Universalist Association has been embracing censorship, authoritarian tendencies, and punitive treatment of clergy abuse critics and whistleblowers since at least the early 2000s.

I was banned from all UUA controlled Unitarian Universalist email lists and UUA controlled internet groups in the early 2000s.

Apparently engaging in a free and responsible search for the truth and meaning of UUA mishandling of clergy misconduct complaints, and also asking questions about allegations made by German anti-fascist groups that the German Unitarian religious community was subverted by former SS officers after WWII and effectively a Neo-Nazi front group were verbotten. . .

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Anne Martinez's avatar

I drifted away from my UU congregation about a decade ago mostly due to their deemphasizing of women's rights in favor of "LGBTQIIQ2S+" rights. I can only imagine how bad it is now especially regarding Israel.

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Byron B. Carrier's avatar

Advice in my former UUMA chapter: "When it feels like you have to tiptoe around eggshells - stomp!"

But beware.

Freedom of the pulpit is a risky business. Any person or group can gripe that they're offended and stir up the turmoil that drives ministers and congregants out. Whole careers and congregational identities can be tripped up and scuttled by naysayers.

Emerson said, "Always a seer is a sayer." He didn't last either. He was barred from almost all Unitarian pulpits. His "Divinity School Address" was received about as well as Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason."

The defensiveness and tenacity of strongly adhering to religious belief and sentiment astonishes me - then and now again.

As a white, heterosexual, male liberal, I dare not say what I see.

It isn't just in UU circles. I was booted off of X for saying Netanyahu, as a racist murderer, is generating the antisemitism that will linger for generations. Too bad for decent Jews, for they'll inherit his story as theirs.

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Arrr Bee's avatar

Yes yes, it’s Netanyahu. “The Jews caused antisemitism” trope is antisemitic, uttered by antisemites.

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Daniel Hoffman's avatar

Netanyahu says that he represents the Jewish People. Israel, itself, claims the same. If we accept their words, we're not left with a positive view of the Jewish People.

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Arrr Bee's avatar

The Israelis are saying that Hamas must release the Israeli citizens it abducted from inside what’s been the sovereign borders of Israel since 1948, in a war the Palestinians launched with the biggest single day murder of Jews since the Nazi SS Einsatzgruppen, not to mention the torture, rape and wounding of thousands more, and the abduction of 251 Israelis, nearly all of them civilians. Are those the words you object to?

The other thing Israelis insist on is that Hamas surrender to war crimes trials or go into exile for these atrocities. These are the two things Israelis are insisting on during this war. So who are YOU defending here? Your Hamas Pals are precious to you over humanity? Because unless you only consume anti-Israel propaganda you must have noticed the Palestinians in Gaza protesting Hamas (and getting beaten and executed for it), and the surveys showing half of the Palestinians want to escape their totalitarian Hamas overlords to other countries. It’s good you’re backing the Islamist terrorists here - truly ‘moral’ like the virtue signaling sociopaths in the UU.

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Daniel Hoffman's avatar

I loathe Hamas and was furious when the Israelis set them up in power.

The Israelis deliberately allowed the October 7th attack. Hamas is an unwitting tool of Israel and don't even know that they've been agents provocateurs from day one.

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Arrr Bee's avatar

"Deliberately allowed the October 7th attack" - either up your meds or get the fuck off conspiracy theory "news". Sure, the Hamas, based on 100+ years of Muslim Brotherhood Islamist ideology, funded by Muslim Brotherhood global funders Qatar, are "agent provocateurs" of the evil Jews who murdered themselves. The Palestinians were already massacring Jews over fake news about Al Aqsa in 1920. Wasn't Hamas, but sure was Islamist terrorism. And Hamas started in 1987, long before the entire Gaza strip was given to the genocidal Palestinians as "land for peace" in 2005, long before the Gaza strip was taken over in a violent coup by Hamas in 2007. If you blame Jews for manipulating the people who murder them why not claim the Nazis were forced by the Jews to murder have the Jews in the world. Do you see how idiotic and deranged your claim is?

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Daniel Hoffman's avatar

Are you dening that Israel knew of the October 7th attack a year in advance and had the specific operational details of how it was going to be carried out? Are you denying that Israel was notified by at least three foreign nations in the weeks before the attack? You may believe that the didn't take those warnings seriously. I don't. They let it happen on purpose.

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Elverne and Ona Gustafson's avatar

I’m sure the fascists in this world are happy to see the split and oppression in the UU. If racism is met with a divided front, it wins.

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Byron B. Carrier's avatar

Somehow, the "left" got saddled with unusual lifestyle campaigns that raise unease and hackles, thereby delivering the last election to a fascist reactionary.

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JFunk's avatar

You can just as easily replace’UU’ with western insight meditation. Same same.

What’s even more offensive is that that tradition was created by a group of Jews

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omenapt's avatar

it has become a coven of witches. I was raised UU so always considered myself Jewish adjacent, lol!

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Bethany Ward's avatar

I am so sorry we couldn’t do better.

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Mary Kathryn Vernon's avatar

She sounds like me.

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